Ryan Wilson
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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MacKinnon the front runner so far? He's quietly putting up a good season as an 18 year old. |
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fudd1689
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Boston, MA Joined: 09.27.2010
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Ryan Wilson: Can Olli Maatta Win The Calder Trophy?
Penguins beat Wild 5-2 in Matt Cooke's return. Can Maatta win the Calder? - Ryan_Wilson
I think he should get strong consideration for the Calder. He has looked fantastic thus far, shows great poise with the puck and has the smarts for the game. I think it will most likely come down to a point scoring forward. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Maatta is a good (a very, very good) young player. Unfortunately, I don't see him getting the ice time required, once some vets return, to put up the production needed. Bylsma is very loyal to his vets, for better or worse. Once Letang, Scuderi, and Martin return, they'll get the top-3 minutes, and Maatta will, fairly or not, get less ice time. It's just like Despres last year; despite how well he played, he was scratched/sent down for Engelland. I see the same thing happening this year, despite Maataa showing he deserves big minutes. In the end, he'll probably end up in the top 5 in voting behind the likes of MacKinnon, Hertl, Monahan, and Jones. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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I think MacKinnons name is already being etched . Kid is the next one. Getting better each game. |
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hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 06.23.2008
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Evgeni Malkin who has been out of action with injury now trails by 10 points and his Art Ross aspirations are probably over at this point.
I don't think that's the case. One hot week by Malkin and that gap can close pretty quickly.
Also, keep in mind that he and Neal have only played 14 games together this season. In those 14 games, Malkin is at 1.71ppg. Crosby is at 1.38 for the year. That's a tough pace to keep up, but a couple hot weeks would go a long way towards doing it. |
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Maatta's chances of putting up more points would go up a lot if we weren't icing AHL forwards right now as well. Tough spot. |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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Ryan Wilson: Can Olli Maatta Win The Calder Trophy?
Penguins beat Wild 5-2 in Matt Cooke's return. Can Maatta win the Calder? - Ryan_Wilson
There is a few Defense man having a good rookie season like Matta and Krug Gelinas also obviously comes to mind for me because he plays for the Devils but these guys are all going to be overlooked by a forward with a flashy name and high draft spot. Every one likes the sexy pick even if it's not always the right one. ( not saying Mackinnon isn't a good choice or the most deserving ). |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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There is a few Defense man having a good rookie season like Matta and Krug Gelinas also obviously comes to mind for me because he plays for the Devils but these guys are all going to be overlooked by a forward with a flashy name and high draft spot. Every one likes the sexy pick even if it's not always the right one. ( not saying Mackinnon isn't a good choice or the most deserving ). - blizzzard
Don't forget Jones. He's playing top pair minutes out in Nashville. |
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"Amazing Crosby assist"?
Didn't I see Claude Giroux score that goal himself last night instead of passing? That was an amazing GOAL |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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Don't forget Jones. He's playing top pair minutes out in Nashville. - jmatchett383
Exactly him to. He likely has the best chance to win of the Defence though because he is the youngest ? was taken 4th this year and was supposed to go #1 if a D is going to win it, it will be Jones because of his draft status ( not saying he wouldn't deserve it if he did ) |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Don't forget Jones. He's playing top pair minutes out in Nashville. - jmatchett383
Not so much. The last 8 games around 10 minutes per game.. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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So what you're saying is he's the next Nick Lidstrom? |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Exactly him to. He likely has the best chance to win of the Defence though because he is the youngest ? was taken 4th this year and was supposed to go #1 if a D is going to win it, it will be Jones because of his draft status ( not saying he wouldn't deserve it if he did ) - blizzzard
I don't think Jones would get it based on his draft status, it's because he's playing tough minutes on a pretty bad team and still producing offensively. Not knocking Maatta, Krug, Lindholm, or Gelinas, but from what I've watched, Jones is the most well-rounded of the crop. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Not so much. The last 8 games around 10 minutes per game.. - bixll
Huh...I was not aware of that. I just know that he was averaging about 23 min/game last I looked. |
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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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So what you're saying is he's the next Nick Lidstrom? - BulliesPhan87
I don't feel comfortable at all saying that, but I think he can share a very similar style to how Lidstrom played. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Huh...I was not aware of that. I just know that he was averaging about 23 min/game last I looked. - jmatchett383
Look again, his wheels fell off.
Over the past 6 games, average around 12 minutes. |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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I don't think Jones would get it based on his draft status, it's because he's playing tough minutes on a pretty bad team and still producing offensively. Not knocking Maatta, Krug, Lindholm, or Gelinas, but from what I've watched, Jones is the most well-rounded of the crop. - jmatchett383
If he wins he will have likely earned it and deserved to win but these other guys play a lot of minutes to NJ isn't the best team and Gelinas logs 20 - 20+ on most nights. But if it came down to Jones and Krug or Matta it would likely go to Jones because he is the sexy pick kind of like how Nuge got it over Gabe and Henrique |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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If he wins he will have likely earned it and deserved to win but these other guys play a lot of minutes to NJ isn't the best team and Gelinas logs 20 - 20+ on most nights. But if it came down to Jones and Krug or Matta it would likely go to Jones because he is the sexy pick kind of like how Nuge got it over Gabe and Henrique - blizzzard
You may want to double check that. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I don't feel comfortable at all saying that, but I think he can share a very similar style to how Lidstrom played. - Ryan_Wilson
He plays a very similar style and is a very good offensive player. But a true Lidstrom comparison is probably 3-4 years away. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Look again, his wheels fell off.
Over the past 6 games, average around 12 minutes. - bixll
Do you know why? Are they just trying to give him some easier minutes, or ??? |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Do you know why? Are they just trying to give him some easier minutes, or ??? - jmatchett383
He is getting beat up a bit with the long minutes. His + / - is not great. He is just very young. It will take some time, but I can't see Rookie of the year. Never know.
last game he was playing against the other teams 3rd and 4th lines. Maybe get some confidence back.
My feelings is it comes down to Hertel and Mac. Mac wins it. |
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There is a few Defense man having a good rookie season like Matta and Krug Gelinas also obviously comes to mind for me because he plays for the Devils but these guys are all going to be overlooked by a forward with a flashy name and high draft spot. Every one likes the sexy pick even if it's not always the right one. ( not saying Mackinnon isn't a good choice or the most deserving ). - blizzzard
The forwards this year have been a bit underwhelming. Will be interesting to see how they progress, whether they hit a wall or get stronger. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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He is getting beat up a bit with the long minutes. His + / - is not great. He is just very young. It will take some time, but I can't see Rookie of the year. Never know.
last game he was playing against the other teams 3rd and 4th lines. Maybe get some confidence back.
My feelings is it comes down to Hertel and Mac. Mac wins it. - bixll
This is what worries me about Maatta getting so many minutes. He's been a rock so far but he's never been exposed to this kind of pressure and competition. Hate to see him crack at the wrong time of year. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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This is what worries me about Maatta getting so many minutes. He's been a rock so far but he's never been exposed to this kind of pressure and competition. Hate to see him crack at the wrong time of year. - madmike71
He is also on a far better team. More puck possession will take the heat off him. |
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